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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135026560" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135026560">(Oct 02 2018 at 10:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey! There are <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=label%3Abeta-nominated+-label%3Abeta-accepted+label%3At-compiler" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=label%3Abeta-nominated+-label%3Abeta-accepted+label%3At-compiler">a lot of beta nominations for T-compiler</a>, could you check them out?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029006" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029006">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span>  We typically go through the beta-nominations at our weekly meeting. Last week's got a bit bogged down, so we didn't properly go through the list at that time, and then clearly the list has also grown since then...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029018" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029018">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>so the question becomes: Do we try to apply some sort of asynchronous and/or ad-hoc system for approving backports in the meantime, or do we wait until the meeting coming this Thursday</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029097" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029097">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I know that <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> often will approve things for beta-backporting that are "obviously fine" based on his personal evaluation. Its possible that I (or he, or another member of <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="492">@T-compiler</span> ) should go through that process today or tomorrow, just to reduce the size of the list going into the meeting on thursday...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029288" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029288">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I tried that earlier. I wasn't very sure about my judgements so I left almost all of them alone. I can do another round and be more "aggressive"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029384" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029384">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I personally would like to try to ensure that members of the compiler team at least get a chance to object</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029455" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029455">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>So what i'm currently thinking is this: Its two days until the meeting anyway. We could have a policy that any member of the compiler team can write a comment stating that they think a beta-nominated PR should be backported</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029469" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029469">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then once we get to the meeting, <em>that</em> is the synchronization point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029477" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029477">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>But instead of slowing waiting on each issue to see if anyone objects</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029488" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029488">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>we instead quickly enumerate the ones that have already been conditionally approved</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029535" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029535">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least, that <em>sounds</em> quicker to me than what I had been doing...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029551">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>One might argue that the act of applying a beta-nomination tag should already count as the upvote for a backport</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135029560" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135029560">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and that I have simply been too slow in going through them.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135030011" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135030011">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>ups, well. I did those that I felt confident about (in necessity, backportability, code and the fact that the nomination wasn't mine)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135030493" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135030493">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Its fine, I'm more just trying to figure out what sort of long term precedent to set.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135030521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135030521">(Oct 02 2018 at 11:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>if a person is confident that a given PR is fine for backport, then it does seem wasteful to force it to wait until the team meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135030631" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135030631">(Oct 02 2018 at 12:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@Oli</span> I just want to confirm: when you removed the <code>beta-nominated</code> tag from PR's like <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54650" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54650">#54650</a>, is there a corresponding merge to beta for that backport?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135030688" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135030688">(Oct 02 2018 at 12:01)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@Oli</span> i.e. I believe our protocol is that we leave PR's tagged as <em>both</em> <code>beta-nominated</code> and <code>beta-accepted</code> when they are in the state that the given PR has been both "approved for backport" <strong>and</strong> that particular backport hasn't happened yet; we remove the <code>beta-nominated</code> tag <em>after</em> the backport happens.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135030769" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135030769">(Oct 02 2018 at 12:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>... given that the last commit to beta was 2 days ago, I am inferring that <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@Oli</span> was not aware of the aforementioned protocol ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135030940" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135030940">(Oct 02 2018 at 12:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>(okay, I <em>think</em> I fixed all the cases of the problem in the previous comment now...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135031038" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135031038">(Oct 02 2018 at 12:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> actually, <code>beta-nominated</code> should be removed when the backport is r+ed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135031094" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135031094">(Oct 02 2018 at 12:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll do a backport PR now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135031102" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135031102">(Oct 02 2018 at 12:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, either way, there were not yet backport PR's in this case, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135031125" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135031125">(Oct 02 2018 at 12:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>nope, the only backport PR is <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54748" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54748">#54748</a> by <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@Oli</span>, for <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54693" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54693">#54693</a> which is not yet approved</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135031610" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135031610">(Oct 02 2018 at 12:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yea, I wasn't aware of that protocol. Thanks for the update</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135031617" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135031617">(Oct 02 2018 at 12:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>did a rollup PR for the backports :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta%20nominations/near/135031672" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/beta.20nominations.html#135031672">(Oct 02 2018 at 12:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah zulip was eating notifications. Fixed now</p>



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